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News aggregators and music jamming sites

Esther Dyson helps us evaluate Socialmedian and Indaba


Innovation show by Bambi Francisco
October 13, 2008 | Comments (3)
Short URL: http://vator.tv/n/45f

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We've come a long way from getting the news dropped off at our doorsteps. Even though I still read the paper version of the Wall Street Journal, most of the news is coming from emerging aggregators, such as Alltop, Socialmedian and even Fark. These days, news is created by everyone and anyone with an online connection. It's not a surprise therefore that the business of aggregating that news - however worthy of being collected - has become an opportunity. Just recently, Tina Brown launched The Daily Beast, a political news aggregation site, similar to other news aggregation sites Huffington Post and Drudge Report. Other emerging news aggregation sites include Socialmedian and Alltop. and, sites like Publish2 and Zemanta are helping anyone become journalists and curators of news. 

Of course, there are the more established sites where stories bubble up to the top depending on votes and submissions, like Digg, Fark and Yahoo Buzz.

Is this field worth investing in? Or is it too crowded? In this Vator Box episode, Esther Dyson is our guest host - yet again - and helps us evaluate the prospects for Socialmedian, an emerging news aggregation site founded by Jason Goldberg. Socialmedian, which Liquid Scenarios estimates is worth $2 million based on comparables, essentially lets people personalize their news down to the topic. Additionally, Socialmedian allows people to follow others who they believe are newsmakers. 

"I love Jason. He’s smart. He’s experienced. If I did invest in it, it would be in the basis of him running it," she said. "The real challenge is how do you differentiate yourself from the nine other things like this," she added. "There's too much stuff out there. Maybe one or two of them will bubble to the top. But I wouldn’t be in the sector."

Ezra praised Jason, who's raised some $600,000 in seed money, for being prudent about his fundraising approach. He's been "very smart about managing the equilibrium between the amount of money he raises, his exit potential and the business he builds," said Ezra. 

Esther was asked to invest in Socialmedian, but she declined. You'll have to watch the show to see why.

We then set our sights to Indaba Music, a site that lets musicians jam with one another. Already, Indaba has a subscriber list of 75,000 people. Esther, who's invested in eJamming, said she likes the concept. 

Indaba, which has not yet taken venture funding, makes money by charging marketers and promoters a fee to use its service. For instance, Indaba recently announced that it's working with Yo-Yo Ma whereby the artist has posted a pre-recorded melody of its piece "Dona Nobis Pacem" on the Indaba site. Members of the Indaba community are challenged to create variations of that piece to create new songs. Indaba's business model is not dissimilar to Mozes, which is also trying to tap into the marketer and promoter budgets. 

As for who we'd bet on? You'll have to watch the show to find out. 

(Note: We're not experts. We're just trying to create a dialogue around the topics. So, if you disagree with us, let us know. We welcome your input about the companies we talk about on Vator Box. We especially welcome input from the founders of the companies we talk about.)

 



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Hubie Stubert, on October 13, 2008
While Fark does in fact have voting for links, that is not the primary method for a story to be green-lit for the Main Page. If anything, you might even check your own Green for this article. http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=3940895 One might think that when you bill yourselves as "a trusted source for emerging tech" that you might be better informed. Just a thought.

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Bambi Francisco
Bambi Francisco, on October 13, 2008
Hi, Hubie: You are correct. On Fark, there really is no voting, but if certain pieces are submitted multiple times, it is a form of voting. I actually know very well how stories are submitted and only a few get posted on the main page. I was merely saying that pieces are submitted by the public. Fark is an aggregator of news, more than it is a provider of original news content.

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David Garrison
David Garrison, on November 6, 2008
INDABA MUSIC LAUNCHES INDABAVOX, FIRST MUSIC COLLABORATION ONLINE VIA PHONE Musicians Able To Record On-The-Go Via Unique VoIP Functionality NEW YORK – October 21, 2008 – Today, Indaba Music, the leading online music collaboration web application, launched IndabaVox, revolutionary online music collaboration functionality to allow musicians worldwide to record to sessions and conference together directly from their mobile devices. The IndabaVox features will act as a supplement to Indaba Music's already robust online tool, which is centered around 'sessions,' where members can record and mix online to create music together. IndabaVox uses advanced VoIP technology, allowing members to record to a session they are involved with and conference directly with others in a session – all through the use of a standard or mobile telephone. The mobile recording functionality allows on-the-go musicians to record notes and comments when and wherever inspiration may strike them. These recordings show up quickly within the corresponding session online, where any member of the session can access them. The conferencing feature gives Indaba users the unique ability to discuss their projects directly with session members from across the world – while keeping each user's personal information discrete. "As a musician myself, it happens to me all the time that I wake up in the middle of the night with a great idea for a melody or lyric, only to forget it the next morning," said Indaba Music co-founder Daniel Zaccagnino. "With the ability to directly call into sessions all Indaba Music artists will be able to record from wherever they are and find their music in their mixing console when they next log-in. We're excited for the new creativity this will allow for." Each member of an online session at Indaba Music is assigned a unique pin for that session, which can be accessed when the member calls the IndabaVox phone number. Once in the system, a voice-prompt menu allows the user to record directly to a session, as well as set up a conference with other session members. For further ease of use, Indaba Music members will have the ability to set a default session to which they can record to immediately when they dial the IndabaVox number. In addition to the new VoIP features, Indaba Music is also launching iPhone functionality. Users of the iPhone will see a customized site when they visit IndabaMusic.com, which will allow them to easily keep track of their sessions, messages, and contest involvements. The option to view the full site on the iPhone will still be available. About Indaba Music Indaba Music is a web application as well as a social network for musicians that enables artists all over the world to create music together online. Members can connect with an international community of musicians to create online recording sessions – editing and mixing tracks recorded in different parts of the world using our online mixer. Following Indaba Music's first year of strong growth, the site is becoming an integrated platform from which musicians can manage all aspects of their digital lives. For more: www.indabamusic.com

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