Venture capital economics

Why VCs look for 10X returns


Lessons learned from investor by Don Dodge
August 3, 2008 | Comments (1)
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VCs want to invest at least $5M in startups that have potential 10X returns. That is because it takes as much time to manage a $1M investment as it does to manage $5M. Secondly, every startup looks like a winner when they write the check, but Fred Wilson suggests that 33% will fail, 33% will break even, and 33% will be big winners. VCs start out hoping for a 10X return on every deal but average about 3X to 4X after all is said and done.

VC Firm Partners - If a VC firm raises a $250M fund they will probably have 5 partners in the firm, with each partner managing about $50M. If they invest about $5M in each company over several rounds, then each partner will sit on 10 company boards. That is about all a single partner can handle and still do a good job for the portfolio companies.

VC Firm Investors - VC firms raise money from Limited Partner investors like insurance companies, pension funds, university endowments, and wealthy individuals. These investors know that venture investing is risky and expect higher returns to compensate for the risk, typically 3X their money over the 10 year life of the fund, or a net IRR of 30%. More on this later.

VC Firm Economics - VCs usually take a 2% - 3% annual management fee and 20% to 25% (carried interest) of any capital gains on exits. So, when you take out the VC fees and gains, and factor in the LP investor expectations, what does the VC fund have to return? Fred Wilson of Union Square Ventures did a great post on this and provided some real numbers on his model.

VC Model

There are a lot of numbers here, but if you study them carefully they explain almost every question you might have about how a VC firm works.

VC Fees and Gains - Note that on a typical $100M fund management fees can take $20M off the top, so there is only $80M left to invest. That 2% annual management fee over the 10 year life of a fund really adds up. Also note that if the fund returns 4X on invested capital (4 X $80M = $320M) that the VC gets 20% of the gain or $44M ($320M - $80M = $240M, less the $20M in fees = $220M. The VC gets 20% of that gain or $44M.

On a $100M fund the VC gets $20M in fees and $44M in gains over the 10 year life of the fund. Now you know why everyone wants to be a VC.

VC Limited Partner Returns - In this case the LPs invest $100M and get back $256M, or about 2.5 times their money. Because they invest their money over the first 4 years of the fund, and collect their returns over the last 5 years of the fund, their Internal Rate of Return (IRR) averages about 30%.

What does this mean to entrepreneurs? - When you pitch to a VC you need to show the "potential" for a 10X return. The truth is that no VC knows which company will return 10X and which one will fail and lose all the money. Believe me, if they knew...they would only invest in the winners. Like I said, they all look like winners when they write the checks.

VCs will not invest in startups that address a small niche market, or companies that are profitable but don't look like they can bring 10X returns. They are not interested in potential 4X returns because they know that on average 66% of all investments will either fail or break even. If a company starts out looking like a 4X return, chances are, given the long VC history, it will break even at best. It is like probabilities in poker.

So, here is the inside secret to all of this. Build your plan on a 10X return, expect a 4X return, and hope you don't end up in the 33% failure category.


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1 comment

Matthias Schwarz
Matthias Schwarz, on August 4, 2008
The bottom line... dust off an old copy of "Bogle On Mutual Funds" - same principles, just more eye-popping numbers. While I can only agree with the quick-and-dirty simplification undertaken by Don, big banking has long ago learned that casual rounding works in their favor. So, let's roll some of these numbers again to see the tiny crumbs falling off the table and to watch them somehow end up in that Los Altos Hills mansion: If $80M is left to invest, that's a 2.2% p.a. management fee. To come up with a $300M payout after 10 years for a $100M investment, and assuming Don's 33% theory, $27M (33% of $80M) will have to earn 26.1% p.a. to digest the 33% loss and the 33% lame duck money. This sounds reasonable enough, but check out the little bonus our VC just earned: As Don stated, the 2.2% fee is discounted up front, not initially exposed to risk, and cash in the bank. Naturally, the VC might put these $20M to work using the same model (I doubt they need the extra pennies for another fancy dinner, car or office), so $7M (33% of $20M) lame duck plus $7M (another 33% of $20M) invested at 26.1% will magically turn into $73M over the same amount of time - outside of the limited partners world. And always remember - risk is for the little guys, you and me, who do one or two investments at a time. Once you do 100 of them then the statistics are in your favor and you can absorb the 66% sub-par performance without a hitch.

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