Nostalgia hampers online education progress

Why reminiscing about the Rick-Rollin 80s is bad for the U.S. school system

Technology trends and news by Matt Bowman
September 24, 2009 | last edited September 24, 2009 7:15 AM | Comments (6)
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 I had a brief but revealing twitter conversation earlier this year over online schooling:

me: Comprehensive directory of online degree programs: http://www.allonlineschools.com ... Why do we still use buildings for school?

ardenfaye: @mattwbowman bc some people are social learners. like, er, me. :-)

I admit to being on the introverted end of Meyers-Briggs, and realize that not everyone is with me. But I'm still skeptical about the "social-interaction" argument against online schools.

The WSJ has an article today about the rise of online education and the difficulty some kids have adjusting. The article follows seventeen-year-old Tatyana Ray who spent the last year-and-a-half at an online school and found she "missed the human connection of proms, football games and in-person, rather than online, gossip." The human story is interesting, but anecdotal. What is quantifiable on a large scale is the rise of school on the screen:

 

Online high schools are growing more popular. Roughly 100,000 of the 12 million high-school-age students in the U.S. attend 438 online schools full-time, up from 30,000 five years ago, according to the International Association for K-12 Learning Online, a Washington nonprofit representing online schools. Many more students take some classes online, while attending traditional schools. The National Center for Education Statistics, part of the U.S. Department of Education, says 1.5 million K-12 students were home-schooled in 2007, a figure that includes some who attended online schools. That is a 36% increase from the 1.1 million in 2003.


Anyone who attended high school in the US, understands the movie Napolean Dynamite, and has the Emo habit of reminiscing whistfully about the last decade's b-rated pop stars will regard this transition as beyond tragic.  How will these online kids ever grasp reruns of Saved by the Bell?

 What's even more tragic is that such emotions may well guide public policy. Homeschoolers routinely score higher on standardize tests, a natural result of being able to move at their own pace. At the Stanford Summit in August, I asked James Shelton, Advisor to US Secretary of Education, whether the $100 billion federal education package or the $4.4 billion "Race to the Top" stimulus might be used to transition our country's ailing system to a web-based infrastructure with remote instruction that would allow the academic benefits of homeschooling to be more widespread, reaching further into high-needs areas. He started shaking his head before I finished, as if to say "unthinkable." No, that money is destined for the status-quo.

No doubt, most of us remember our high school years with at least some fondness, if not out-right Uncle-Rico-esque dreams of time-travel. But reach back a little further than the Rick-Rolling 80s, and you'll find humans managed to survive before they were systematically huddled together for 15 of their first 20 years into a crowded box full of peers. For the first hundred years of our country, kids interacted with adults, older and younger siblings, their friends in town... and things turned out alright. Jefferson's Agrarian Ideal, which shaped 200 years of public policy, may involve pig pens, but not kid pens.

The arguments against the online education movement are really arguments against the transition. Tatyana Ray spent some time in a traditional high school before moving online and finding that the "the digital clubs for fashion, books and cooking [...] felt more like work than fun." That's the same feeling a 40-year-old business man has for his Twitter account. But for the next generation that grows up online, digital social interaction may not be so third-nature.

The transition to energy independence is difficult, too. Lots of incumbents will resist. Would that we could apply the same resolve to fixing our education system as we're do to solving our energy woes.

 


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Comments

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Tatyana Ray, on September 24, 2009

While I appreciate your comments on the world of online schooling I wish you would have read my additional comment on the WSJ article first.


Matt Bowman
Matt Bowman, on September 24, 2009

Hi Tatyana,
Honored by your response, and thank you for pointing me to the additional comment. Do you mind re-copying it here for our readers? I especially find your conclusion poignant: "Is it possible that the current debate on high school education should not be concerned with how socially limiting an online school can be but rather, how it can turn students into global citizens with simplicity and ease?" Agree. I taught at inner-city schools in the Bronx and Hunters Point, CA, for three years, and think the discussion should also include how online education can help promising students break out of straight-jacket that is the inner-city public brick-and-mortar.


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Tatyana Ray, on September 24, 2009

Hi Matt! I have a google alert for my name and your article came up! I agree with many of your sentiments about the nature of online schooling but the reality is Paul didn't have the word count to include everything from our multiple interviews. While there may be some less favorable aspects of online education, there are certainly many positives as well, which I did mention to him. Feel free to copy paste my response here, I was having some trouble with the formatting before. p.s. I happen to be an ESFP :D


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Tatyana Ray, on September 24, 2009

Oops double posted, you can delete this!


Matt Bowman
Matt Bowman, on September 25, 2009

Tatyana's follow-up to the WSJ story (sorry, our system doesn't allow for line breaks / html):

"I am one of the students who was interviewed in this article and would like to clarify a few things. Matthew Stevenson is definitely correct about the OHS being a very academically rewarding environment. In fact, that is one of the main reasons I chose to come back after taking time off last year. However, one of the other reasons I decided to return is because of the wide range of bright and unique students I have met during my time at the OHS (keep in mind the OHS is an international school).**********************

When I commented about my personal experience at the OHS it was not my intention for it sound as if there were no opportunities for social interaction in all online schools (or even this particular one). But rather, that despite what is currently offered socially, I was still left feeling alone at times and searching for more interaction with my peers.**********************

Some of the wonderful social activities currently offered at our school include summer programs where the students come live and study in the dorms together for weeks at a time and online extracurriculars such as clubs or student government. This year, we have also started to arrange offline gatherings around the country.**********************

So while the social environment may not be what I was used to at a brick and mortar, I feel that the OHS is certainly doing it's best under these circumstances. I think that trying to figure out how to provide ample social activity for students is one of the challenges that many innovative online institutions like ours face today.**********************

Also, I understand that we can socialize outside of the school and take part in a number of extracurriculars inside and outside of my online school. However, I primarily want to socialize with the students I have had the privilege to meet through the OHS. Therefore, at times, it can be both frustrating and lonely because of the distance between us.**********************

On that note, I would like to leave you with something to consider. Is it possible that the current debate on high school education should not be concerned with how socially limiting an online school can be but rather, how it can turn students into global citizens with simplicity and ease?"


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Deborah Lombard, on September 27, 2009

As a student who had the privilege of becoming a global citizen by actually moving from school to school (ten in ten years) I'm intrigued by the possibilities of global online connections. However, I'm not sure the process of becoming a global citizen is inherent in the process of online education? I've certainly met students who have physically traveled the world and do not think of themselves as global citizens. Think of all the college students who regularly enjoy spring break out of US borders but who never actually visit the country they travel to. While the internet obviously makes things more accessible, there must be other factors at work? Do you think the process is most important? How/what do you define as a global citizen? How will we know one?
Continuing Education CSU


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